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  Animals living forever

  by startingover in

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  does anyone know?

  did jw's ever believe that animals will live forever in the paradise?

  i was having a discussion with a jw friend and he said they did..

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  I am confident that the bacon I had with breakfast will live again...

  on the other hand, maybe its just repeating on me. Is two pounds et at one sitting EXCESSIVE?
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  Matthew 24:37-39 Proves That Jesus is Fictional

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

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  i was doing some browsing today on http://watchtowerletters.com and discovered a very thought provoking point.

  the fact is that the flood of noah's day does not stand up to scientific scrutiny or common sense.

  this becomes all the more apparent when considering an ancient story like the epic of gilgamesh.

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  OR...

  Maybe Jesus was REAL and he was "talking in code," as if to say,

  "C'mon, you MORONS! You know this was JUST A STORY, right? Don't you? Oh, PUL-EEZE, for the love of me, LISTEN TO THE ALBUM, MAN!"

  [with apologies to Sam Kinison]
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  A little rant about prayer

  by BourneIdentity in

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  is god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?

  i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.

  he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.

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  Thanks, PunkOfNice, that was excellent!
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  JW's & eBay

  by The Fall Guy in

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  i just came across a pair of jw's on ebay who are flogging off nearly 2000 "religious" items.. is it just me, or are jw's hypocrites when they make cash by selling old light publications which now contain "wrong teachings," or much worse, by selling books etc.

  which were created by members of apostate christendom and contain teachings which contradict their self-appointed "faithful slave?

  is there a bible example/principle here?.

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  Sparky1, I *think* the seller might be

  https://www.ebay.com/usr/lisa.joeywit

  because they seen to match the description. Have FUN and HAPPY shopping!
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  JWs Changing "Baptism Questions" Effective May 13?

  by Room 215 in

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  I found the answer to the question I asked above:

  Watchtower Baptismal Requirements

  Prior to 1951 - Baptism as a Christian in any religion, provided by full water immersion. (What Pastor Russell Said pp.35,36)

  1955 to 1985 - Baptised by Watchtower Representative to Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

  1985 onwards - Baptised by Watchtower Representative to Father, Son and the Organization (w85 6/1 p.30)

  Baptismal questions from the Watchtower 1956 Jul 1 p.407:

  (1) Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him the Father through his Son Jesus Christ?

  (2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightenment of the holy spirit?"

  This was in effect until it was changed in the Watchtower 1966 Aug 1 p.465.

  (Thanks, jwfacts.com!)
  
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  Do You Ever Have Dreams You’re Still a JW?

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last night i dreamt i was at a circuit assembly; i even had a walk-on speaking part early in the morning program.

  i spent the rest of the day “working” the event in a security detail.

  the dream lasted until the entire day’s program was over.

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  Dub World

  with apologies to Gary Jules, Michael Andrews ("Mad World")

  All around me are familiar faces

  Worn out places, worn out faces

  Bright and early for their daily races

  Going nowhere, going nowhere

  Their tears are filling up their glasses

  No expression, no expression

  Hide my head, I want to drown my sorrow

  Maybe tomorrow, but not tomorrow

  And I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad

  Dreams in which the world is dying are the best I've ever had

  I find it hard to tell you, I find it hard to take

  When people think in circles it's a very very

  Dub world, Dub world

  Children waiting for the day, they feel good

  But no birthdays, bad bad birthdays

  Made to feel the way that every child should

  Sit and listen, sit and listen

  Went to meetings and I went in service,

  No one knew me, no one knew me

  Hello preacher tell me what's the lesson

  Look right through me, look right through me

  And I find it kinda funny

  I find it kinda sad

  Dreams in which the world is dying

  Are the best I've ever had

  I find it hard to tell you

  I find it hard to take

  When people think in circles

  It's a very, very Dub world, Dub world
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  A little rant about prayer

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?

  i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.

  he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.

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  For me the jig was up when I realized that Jehovah made my ruler smaller.
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  Age when parents should stop bathing their children

  by Wonderment in

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  by what age should parents stop bathing and wiping their children's bottoms?

  when are these actions a definitely no-no?.

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  I go over to the home for wayward girls on Tuesdays to volunteer, but so far they just keep telling me all positions are filled currently.

  But I'm no quitter!
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  The Watchtower Tract Society doesn't print Bibles?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading a few comments here, i thought it was time for me to get a copy of "the silver sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.

  so i thought i would see if jw.org would offer a way that i could purchase a printed copy (not digital) of the new world translation.

  as i browsed, it occurred to me that i might also like to have a copy of the... what was it?

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  WOW, Careful!

  Are you in the UK?

  I don't get out much, but I have never seen a JW cart in the USA!
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  JWs Changing "Baptism Questions" Effective May 13?

  by Room 215 in

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  Can anyone find the questions that were asked in 1961?

  They were, if memory serves, vastly different, and one could easily argue that old baptisms were invalidated by the change in the terms of the old "contract."